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Police bodycam footage of George Floyd arrest leaked, published despite public distribution being prohibited

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Police bodycam footage of George Floyd arrest leaked, published despite public distribution being prohibited

 Louis Casiano

Fox News

8/3/20

 

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Portions of body-camera footage showing the deadly arrest of George Floyd while in custody of Minneapolis police were leaked and published Monday, despite recording and public distribution of the videos being prohibited.

The footage was made available for viewing at the Hennepin County courthouse last month by appointment only.

But The Daily Mail said it exclusively obtained the May 25 footage from the body cameras of former rookie officers Thomas Lane and J Alexander Kueng. The video shows about 18 minutes from Kueng's body cam and 10 minutes from Lane's.

The pair were the first to arrive at the Cup Foods convenience store after a complaint that Floyd allegedly tried to pass off a fake $20 bill. Video shot by bystanders showing an officer pinning his knee into Floyd's next for nearly nine minutes before his death sparked global outrage and unleashed a wave of protests against police brutality and racial injustice that still continues.

Hennepin County District Court spokesman Spenser Bickett told Fox News the court was aware of the leak.

"The court is working with the Hennepin County Sheriff and investigating how the Daily Mail obtained copies of two video exhibits," Bickett said.

Hennepin County District Judge Peter Cahill barred the videos from being viewed outside the courthouse despite opposition from media groups. He is presiding over the case involving now-former police officers Kueng, Lane, Tou Thau and Derek Chauvin.

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Hieronymous

The overcharge was by design.  Keith Ellison for some reason wants to see Minneapolis go up in flames.

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JerryL
42 minutes ago, Moderator T said:

I've watched 8 minutes of the video and am looking for the rest. A few things do stand out:

1) The narrative that Floyd was compliant is an outright lie.  He did not comply with anything the officers said or had him do.  Literally nothing.

2) Floyd was actively resisting arrest throughout the encounter.

3) Floyd appeared to be having some sort of mental health crisis or was on some sort of drugs or a combination of the two.  One woman they spoke to who I think was a passenger in his car said he had mental problems about the police and had been shot in the past.  He (not that he can be trusted) also claimed to have claustrophobia and another issue.

4) Floyd engaged in the wildly common (in the last 5 years or so) tactic of crying wolf by screaming "I can't breathe" throughout the encounter.  When he finally did start to have breathing problems, they didn't believe him.

 

I said before all of this was known that charging Chauvin with murder was a mistake.  I'm now positive that's the case.  The force used up until the end was appropriate and necessary.  Kneeling on him in the fashion that he did was not appropriate.  They probably didn't need to get him back out of the cruiser until EMS arrived.  At best this is manslaughter.  Most realistically it is negligent homicide related to a failure to render appropriate aid at the end, and the death was caused not by the kneeling but by excited delirium.  

The two rookies probably should not have been charged.  They voiced their concerns and their training officer told them they were wrong.  Based on all of what happened, it is reasonable to believe that someone with zero experience would trust the person with greater experience.  

The fourth officer is likely the most innocent of them all.  He spent nearly the entire time with his back to the encounter and fully occupied with dealing with the crowd.  There is no way he would have observed what was going on to a degree where he'd be able to act with knowledge.

The city is in a tough spot.  They overcharged all of the men in order to please the mob.  If they don't reduce the charges to something that's actually appropriate and winnable, all four will walk away and the city will burn.  If they don't dismiss the charges on at least the fourth officer entirely, they'll end up having to pay him millions.  

If you listen to Candace Owens' clip on why she won't jump on the George Floyd for sainthood bandwagon, she says that both the official and the private autopsies show that he had both meth and fentanyl in his system. 

That to me makes sense because no one calls the police for a phony $20.  They refuse to accept it.  UNLESS the person is doing more than simply passing a bad bill like acting erratically and maybe insisting on the clerk taking the funny money.  A lot of the narrative in the early days while people were still pretending that the riots and looting were about George Floyd, commentators would stress how a white person would not have the police called on them for a phony $20.  They would if they were high and acting crazy.  

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Howsithangin

Which in itself tells ya just about all you need to know, without seeing the video.

Welcome to the 21st Century Witch Trials.  

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Howsithangin
1 hour ago, Hieronymous said:

The overcharge was by design.  Keith Ellison for some reason wants to see Minneapolis go up in flames.

It's all part of the overall Plan.  And it worked beautifully.

Once upon a time, I remember reading about Hitler's Germany, and wondering how an advanced culture---and yes, Germany has quite a historical culture---could have found itself being led down the lane of fascism/national socialism.   I know now, because it's happening before my very eyes.

And half the population are either in on the deal, or are too faking stupid to see it.

I'm starting to root for COVID.  Is that bad?  :scratch:

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5 hours ago, JerryL said:

If you listen to Candace Owens' clip on why she won't jump on the George Floyd for sainthood bandwagon, she says that both the official and the private autopsies show that he had both meth and fentanyl in his system. 

That to me makes sense because no one calls the police for a phony $20.  They refuse to accept it.  UNLESS the person is doing more than simply passing a bad bill like acting erratically and maybe insisting on the clerk taking the funny money.  A lot of the narrative in the early days while people were still pretending that the riots and looting were about George Floyd, commentators would stress how a white person would not have the police called on them for a phony $20.  They would if they were high and acting crazy.  

That has always been interesting to me about this case (and all the conspiracy theories aside on how/where he got the counterfeit bill).  Would the police really arrest you if you showed up at a grocery store and paid cash for $15 worth of groceries with a realistic, yet fake bill?  How fake was his bill? I would assume if you were paid with a fake bill, and you had no clue it wasn't real, that you would not be held criminally liable for that. He worked security at a club and could have easily been paid out from tips, etc.  Surely there must have been more to that interaction he had inside the store that caused the police to be called in the first place.  

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Taggart Transcontinental
6 hours ago, Moderator T said:

I've watched 8 minutes of the video and am looking for the rest. A few things do stand out:

1) The narrative that Floyd was compliant is an outright lie.  He did not comply with anything the officers said or had him do.  Literally nothing.

2) Floyd was actively resisting arrest throughout the encounter.

3) Floyd appeared to be having some sort of mental health crisis or was on some sort of drugs or a combination of the two.  One woman they spoke to who I think was a passenger in his car said he had mental problems about the police and had been shot in the past.  He (not that he can be trusted) also claimed to have claustrophobia and another issue.

4) Floyd engaged in the wildly common (in the last 5 years or so) tactic of crying wolf by screaming "I can't breathe" throughout the encounter.  When he finally did start to have breathing problems, they didn't believe him.

 

I said before all of this was known that charging Chauvin with murder was a mistake.  I'm now positive that's the case.  The force used up until the end was appropriate and necessary.  Kneeling on him in the fashion that he did was not appropriate.  They probably didn't need to get him back out of the cruiser until EMS arrived.  At best this is manslaughter.  Most realistically it is negligent homicide related to a failure to render appropriate aid at the end, and the death was caused not by the kneeling but by excited delirium.  

The two rookies probably should not have been charged.  They voiced their concerns and their training officer told them they were wrong.  Based on all of what happened, it is reasonable to believe that someone with zero experience would trust the person with greater experience.  

The fourth officer is likely the most innocent of them all.  He spent nearly the entire time with his back to the encounter and fully occupied with dealing with the crowd.  There is no way he would have observed what was going on to a degree where he'd be able to act with knowledge.

The city is in a tough spot.  They overcharged all of the men in order to please the mob.  If they don't reduce the charges to something that's actually appropriate and winnable, all four will walk away and the city will burn.  If they don't dismiss the charges on at least the fourth officer entirely, they'll end up having to pay him millions.  

The charge is not a mistake, it is intended to fail. That way they can have more riots right around the time of the election. You are talking about career prosecutors, they know what will fly in court and what won't. That's why you don't swing for the fences in charging someone. You charge them based on the elements of the crime. If they don't fit one way, you see if they fit in another crime. I am dealing with that right now in a case of a 15 and 12 year old with bullying and sexual stuff. Right now it looks like nothing more than harassment since the sexual misconduct will not fit. Though she is to young to consent the defense will claim she did all day. Thus weakening the charge. It's a royal mess but there is no reason to expend the courts efforts on a lost cause even though the victim's parents want blood so to speak.

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Taggart Transcontinental
6 hours ago, JerryL said:

If you listen to Candace Owens' clip on why she won't jump on the George Floyd for sainthood bandwagon, she says that both the official and the private autopsies show that he had both meth and fentanyl in his system. 

That to me makes sense because no one calls the police for a phony $20.  They refuse to accept it.  UNLESS the person is doing more than simply passing a bad bill like acting erratically and maybe insisting on the clerk taking the funny money.  A lot of the narrative in the early days while people were still pretending that the riots and looting were about George Floyd, commentators would stress how a white person would not have the police called on them for a phony $20.  They would if they were high and acting crazy.  

That's not true, usually if you get a call for a fake 20 then it's because that store has received multiples of them and they want them to stop. So they call us there to deal with the rash of them coming in. There is a big influx of funny money coming in from China (go figure).

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satellite66

I hope they don't tear down the George Floyd memorial over this  🤔

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Kilmerfan

Figures, you can't even trust the weather report from MSM

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Ticked@TinselTown

In my best Jan Brady voice, 'Agenda, agenda, agenda!'

The people pulling the strings in this case, both inside and outside, benefit greatly by keeping the truth of what happened quashed by not allowing it into the public without an 'appointment' and with the media getting the chance to edit it for 'time constraint purposes', which is pure bullschit code for cutting away the truth so that they have the most sensational clip they can come up with to incite and further an agenda.

FWIW, once ALL of the footage comes out, uncut, unedited, unvarnished, I hope that the truth will become apparent and that the people who manipulated events to serve their agenda get everything they deserve to the power of a million. 

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zurg

Thanks for the precise, impartial and detailed description ModT. 

These types of events periodically become the powder kegs in society. Then tons of people jump on the bandwagon for “social change” and everyone marvels how “powerful” it is. 

So we now have people telling us there’s tons of systemic racism and all white people are the cause. Well, if that’s the tack they want to take, I’m not participating. I’m not helping. I’m not going to be a part of any of that. I’m out.

Why? Because I’m not a racist, I have nothing to apologize for. I’m not going to join in because it’ll look like I’m guilty. They don’t get to pretend I’m the bad guy simply because I’m white. 

Of course, they’re doing exactly what they claim should not be done: singling people out simply because of the color of their skin. 

Here’s a shocking fact to those black Americans who support kneeling for the anthem and back BLM: most white people would love to see their black brothers and sisters happy, productive, not feeling oppressed in any way. And here’s the catch to those same people: you need a different approach than blaming all white people. 

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Magic Rat

Of course they overcharged these officers.  I predicted it before the were even arrested.  I saw the writing on the wall when the media recirculated the "Gentle Giant" moniker.  When the victim is canonized, the prosecutors always panic and go for a knockout in the first round because they are scared to death of Facebook, Twitter and the media.  This is going to happen with those yahoos in Georgia with the "jogger" too.

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Hieronymous
3 hours ago, satellite66 said:

I hope they don't tear down the George Floyd memorial over this  🤔

This will draw as much attention from the legacy media as did the guy who was in the car with Rodney King.  

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That_Guy

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

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Magic Rat
10 minutes ago, That_Guy said:

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

I don't accept moral judgements by one who so enthusiastically embraces baby killing.

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mjperry51
10 minutes ago, That_Guy said:

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

"Nothing in this life has any meaning except that which we give it."

"It is a wise man who can entertain a thought without accepting it."

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Squirrel
17 minutes ago, That_Guy said:

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

There’s a lot of stupid humans. Admitting that is not denying thier humanity. Being a criminal and getting shot by a police officer in a justifiable shooting just makes you a dead criminal. I know you think there should be no accountability in the black community and no rights to self defense from the police. That is taking the humanity from every law abiding citizen in that community. But thanks for anouther showing of your ignorance.

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satellite66

Irony is a lefty concerned that a criminal had his humanity denied while marching in lockstep with the Planned Parenthood crowd 

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Moderator T
2 hours ago, That_Guy said:

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

No more so than your inability to ever admit that people breaking the law share any responsibility for the consequences.

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3 hours ago, That_Guy said:

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

Please show where anyone stated they were dancing on the dumb ass’s grave? Or maybe where anyone said it’s sad he made the decisions he did? I’m sure you have a ton of examples where we took away his humanity? I’ll wait.... no one did that he threw his own life away and as a human he had that right and made the desicion himself. Guess what I support his right in the name of “ humanity” to do that. I also support the fact the police have a right to thier “ humanity” and to defend themselves and community. It seems the only one on this thread that’s advocating taking away any humanity would be.... I guess you have no mirror in your house

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JerryL
10 hours ago, Taggart Transcontinental said:

That's not true, usually if you get a call for a fake 20 then it's because that store has received multiples of them and they want them to stop. So they call us there to deal with the rash of them coming in. There is a big influx of funny money coming in from China (go figure).

Fair enough...if there is a rash of them.  I have been in the possession of both counterfeit USD and Euros and, since I also was not a high, irrational jerk, was simply told it was false and to go turn it in.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, That_Guy said:

The denial of George Floyd's humanity as evidenced in this thread is truly saddening.

This statement is exact proof of what I’m talking about. 

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JerryL
27 minutes ago, zurg said:

This statement is exact proof of what I’m talking about. 

The_guy freaking bathes in blood.  There is not a dismembered baby he won't celebrate or a dead black man he won't use.

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