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Stench of lies: The Atlantic runs fake news about Trump supposedly calling fallen servicemen 'losers'

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Stench of lies: The Atlantic runs fake news about Trump supposedly calling fallen servicemen 'losers'

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/

By Monica Showalter

September 4, 2020

 

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Sometimes, the press, in its Trump derangement, asks us to believe the fantastical.

That's the case with the anonymously sourced story that ran in The Atlantic about President Trump supposedly calling fallen U.S. servicemen "losers."

When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that "the helicopter couldn't fly" and that the Secret Service wouldn't drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.

Actually, both claims were true.  It was in the news after the press previously tried to create a brouhaha about it at the time.

But for Jeffrey Goldberg, who's reporting this "story," or rather, this "told a story," he's spinning a new narrative and calculating that readers won't remember what came before.

Most really good lies, like most heresies, start out with a kernel of truth, a hook, a little anchor.  Goldberg cites then-candidate Trump's ill considered heated personal attack on John McCain, a former POW who served honorably in Vietnam, as "not a hero," adding  "I like people who weren't captured" as his proof — as if nothing had ever happened between those ill considered remarks and what we see now.

Trump made those stupid remarks because he was fighting with John McCain, who was serving as the errand boy for the now discredited Steele dossier around that time, and it was ugly.

But he's never made disrespectful remarks about servicemen injured or killed in the line of duty.  He's always celebrated servicemen and servicewomen.  He's visited injured servicemen and made trips abroad to be with servicemen.  One of the most notable things he's done has been to call in enlisted and noncommissioned soldiers and sailors to solicit their input about how to make things better in the service for them.  He's beefed up the military budget and demanded military parades to celebrate events.  He's celebrated military victories.  He's also cared deeply for the welfare of soldiers and sailors — specially calling up the family of young servicewoman Vanessa Guillen, who was murdered by a sex-harassing stalker also in the military — and talking about a plan of reform.  He's ordered Saudi "students" out of U.S. military facilities after one of them tried an al-Qaeda-style attack.  He's put veterans first in the Veterans Administration, reducing waiting times and raising customer satisfaction.  He's been ultra-respectful of the military brass, defending a naval commander who broadcast the presence of COVID on his ship to the press (and America's enemies) instead of up the chain of command, recognizing that if he was misguided, or "had a bad day," as Trump put it, he was trying to look out for the welfare of his sailors.  Trump explicitly said he "didn't want to ruin" the captain's career with a relief of command.  The captain was reinstated, and the naval bureaucrat who derided him was fired.  If anything, Trump's been a little too solicitous and trusting of the Pentagon brass.  He hired Deep-State political animals such as H.R. McMaster, Jim Mattis, and John Kelly, all of whom turned out to be major disappointments, with at least some of them compulsive plotters and leakers on the side.

Trump adores the military and honors America's heroes.  He adores them so much that the left, up until now, has called him a "Nazi" for it, which is about par for the left.  Now the canard is going out that he doesn't like them at all.  It's another shape-shifting "narrative" unmoored in facts.

 

 

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Coach

Of all the accusations aimed at the president this one is the most ridiculous.

Flailing describes it best .

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SARGE
11 minutes ago, Coach said:

Of all the accusations aimed at the president this one is the most ridiculous.

Flailing describes it best .

It's The Atlantic.

No more need be said.

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CHANG

This has made me angry like no other attack on Trump. This smear is completely fabricated by cowards hiding behind a shield of anonymity.  Thank God our service members truly knows how much Trump appreciates them, and sees it in all he’s done for them. For anyone to even to begin to consider this nonsense true the sources need to come forward with proof.

I won’t hold my breath. 

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Tikk

This from those who are aligned with those who chant, "Death to America!" in the streets.

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Joe the Pagan

Looks like Meghan McCain is using the article to come out of her hole in the ground, and point out when  Trump said mean things about her father.

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Coach
8 minutes ago, Joe the Pagan said:

Looks like Meghan McCain is using the article to come out of her hole in the ground, and point out when  Trump said mean things about her father.

Pavlov figured that trigger out using dogs.

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mjperry51

Two words - "anonymously sourced"

Totally expected from these miscreants. . .

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E Van der Vliet
51 minutes ago, Joe the Pagan said:

Looks like Meghan McCain is using the article to come out of her hole in the ground, and point out when  Trump said mean things about her father.

Yeah, the media has been using this reference all day. This is a coordinated effort to paint Trump as anti military. It won’t work, and we can expect the left to get even nastier. 

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Natural Selection
1 hour ago, pepperonikkid said:

Stench of lies: The Atlantic runs fake news about Trump supposedly calling fallen servicemen 'losers'

Democrats can't win on policy so they resort to lies and other scams. It's all they got.

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Martin

By using anonymous sources, the Atlantic Monthly is saying "Trust me" to a public who trusts journos very little.  

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E Van der Vliet
58 minutes ago, erp said:

Yeah, the media has been using this reference all day. This is a coordinated effort to paint Trump as anti military. It won’t work, and we can expect the left to get even nastier. 

It’s the left hard on for Trump that they can’t even get the timing right so this doesn’t look so damn obvious. 
 

Thread showing how this was a planned coordinated attack. https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/09/04/smear-job-new-anti-trump-ad-reeks-of-coordinated-and-choreographed-collusion-between-media-and-democrats-video/amp/

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AntiObama

This story is total BS.

It's the Libs that want to defund the military along with ICE, Police and National Guard.

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Severian

And now even Bolton has come out and said this didn't happen. When you can't get Bolton to back your anti-Trump nonsense...

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Buckwheat Jones

The thing about trump is this...there is what he says and what he does. If he said what the story claims, that’s bad. But his behaviors and policies don’t reflect anything like that. 

NadaBurger. 

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grimreefer
6 hours ago, Coach said:

Of all the accusations aimed at the president this one is the most ridiculous.

Flailing describes it best .

Dems must be more desperate than I thought if they're dragging out the old "So when did you stop beating your wife?" ploy.

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USNRETWIFE
5 hours ago, erp said:

Yeah, the media has been using this reference all day. This is a coordinated effort to paint Trump as anti military. It won’t work, and we can expect the left to get even nastier. 

Didn't work with my veteran husband, veteran brothers, veteran brothers-in-law, veteran uncle, active duty nephews and grandson.  We are a military family and we are all in for Trump.

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AntiObama

If Joe is any kind of a man he will debate Trump and Trump is going to knock Biden out for how he created ads to attack Trump without any evidence on this made up crap.

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grimreefer
9 minutes ago, AntiObama said:

If Joe is any kind of a man he will debate Trump and Trump is going to knock Biden out for how he created ads to attack Trump without any evidence on this made up crap.

From what I understand, the leftist group VoteVets' ad was in the can and ready to go prior to Goldberg's hit piece. Speculation is that they had to release the coordinated attack earlier than planned to clear the news cycle of Pelosi's hypocrisy, Biden's bumbling re-emergence from the basement and their internal polling. Expect even more vile and contrived attacks to come.

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grimreefer
3 hours ago, Severian said:

And now even Bolton has come out and said this didn't happen. When you can't get Bolton to back your anti-Trump nonsense...

Even Tater is skeptical:

"It's put up or shut up time – I fully understand why sources insist on confidentiality, but those who were in a position to know about Trump's conduct, and are able to speak, should do so on the record." - Brian Stelter :o

And now that 11 or more of 'those who were in a position to know' have stated that the hit piece is untrue, and the email confirming Goldberg's claim of 'Trump didn't want to get his hair wet' is pure garbage... :tap:

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AnnieGotHerGun

Well Kids, get ready.  This is just the first of about 60 more Hail Mary's the left is going to throw about President Trump before the election.  They know can't beat him any other way than lying about him publicly, showing all kinds of self-righteous anger about what he's done or said now.  This is pure desperation, and it will not stop.  Besides, they had to do something to get the news cycle off crazy Nan.  Her lying and self-righteous anger were just digging her a deeper hole, they had to come up with something really good to change the narrative.

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Ticked@TinselTown
10 hours ago, Joe the Pagan said:

Looks like Meghan McCain is using the article to come out of her hole in the ground, and point out when  Trump said mean things about her father.

her father proved himself to be a sleazy and traitorous piece of schit.  

His military service and time as POW does NOT negate the crimes he committed after.

In regard to the article of bullschit, I saw on the MSN main page feed where they are carrying the story that President Trump is ' denying he said any suck thing'...

the implication being he got caught when the entire article was pure Bandini.

I really wish a purge would happen...

 

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Kevin

Given that he has said things like this before it is pretty silly to pretend it is not true. 

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E Van der Vliet
8 minutes ago, Kevin said:

Given that he has said things like this before it is pretty silly to pretend it is not true. 

And that right there is why this story was written. Ignorant masses like Kevin here will lap it up as gospel

Lost on a Kevin and the ignorant masses, is that Trump has said many positive things about the military. So why aren’t those things “true?”
 

So Kevin, care to post what “things like this before” that Trump has said?

Let my guess? John McCain, right? Gawd but you people are gullible. 

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